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Truth Seeker
2004-05-01 03:57:29 UTC
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Only an OSA agent wants you to leave this newsgroup and go elsewhere:


Why? Two reasons:

1. Because Scientology can not control what happens on this newsgroup,
therefore it constitutes a threat to them. This newsgroup is located
on hundreds of news servers all over the world and cannot be shut down
by them.

2. There is real criticism of Scientology on this newsgroup that they
are afraid you will read it.

If you see anybody on this newsgroup trying hard to get you to go
to a web site, it is more than likely an undercover scientologist. The
web sites names and the web address link titles are written to make it
appear on the surface to be critical of Scientology, this in order to
bait you into logging on. Anybody has the right put web links in their
posts but they will go overboard with it, that's one of the giveaways
that its an undercover agent for scientology. They want you onto a web
site so they can track your location and so they can read the
"cookies" which holds information about you in your web browser. Ask
yourself this question: "If they have something to say, why can't they
just say it here?, Why do they insist you read it elsewhere?"
Scientology's ability to track you and get into your browser and into
your computer is near zero on this newsgroup but it goes up fast once
you log onto a web site and that's one of the main reasons they want
you to leave this newsgroup.

There is one more thing they will try to do once you log onto a
web site that appears on the surface to be critical of scientology.
After reading 2 or 3 articles on that supposedly "critical of
Scientology web site" you will start to feel sick of criticism in
general and start to feel that the critics & enemies of scientology
are one or more of the following:

1. Liars

2. Mentally ill

3. Religious bigots

4. Don't know what they are talking about when it comes to Scientology

5. Perverts

6. Name callers or what's called in Scientology, "1.1's".

Or

7. Hate mongers

Why? Because that is the desired end effect the authors of those web
sites were aiming for. They deliberately manipulate the articles and
plant lies in them so you will start feeling that way. That is the
reason they tried to get you to go to that web site in the first
place. If you start to conclude that one or more the above 7 is true
regarding the critics & enemies of scientology, it was no accident,
you were manipulated into it.

For example, let say scientology wanted you to conclude that the
critics & enemies of scientology are liars, this is how they would
write an article on one of those web sites to get that effect:

First there would be 4 things the undercover scientologist who
wrote the article would want you to do:

1. Think, at first, that it was written by a critic or enemy
scientology.

2. Discover the lies that he deliberately inserted into the article.

3. Conclude after reading the article that the person who wrote it is
a liar.

4. Conclude after reading the article that the critics of scientology
are liars.

Step #1: "Identity Confusion"

The undercover scientologist wants you to think the article was
written by a critic of scientology. When you first look at an article
the first thing you try and figure out is the identity of who wrote
it. Now, in order to fool you on this they will put something like
this in the header:

"Hubbard's drug taking and arrests"

Now when you see something like that the first you are going to think
is that it was written by a critic of Scientology. The reason they
write the header like that is to get you to assign the wrong identity
to the person who wrote it. Now, at this point you THINK it was
written by a critic but that just what that scientologist wants you to
think.

Step #2: "Discovery of the lies"

The undercover scientologist inserts lies into the article with
the hope that you would discover them. The rest of the article will go
sort of like this:

"L. Ron Hubbard was a drug addict for 30 years and was arrested 20
times for drug selling and beating his wife with a coat hanger. After
he left the church in 1968 he would use the money from the church to
buy and sell drugs to Miami using his ship "The Apollo". On this ship
he use to ritually drink blood and sacrifice babies and goats. L. Ron
Hubbard was also into Satan worship and use to wave a magic wand
around."

Now, after you get done reading something like this you start
thinking: "This person is lying, that never happened, this guy is
making this stuff up." or "This person is exaggerating, things
couldn't have been that bad!".

Step #3: "Concluding that the person who wrote the article is a liar"

The undercover scientologist wants you to conclude, seemingly on
your own, that person who wrote the article is a liar. Which will
always lead to the next conclusion and step:

Step #4: "Concluding that the critics of scientology are liars "

At this point, since you think the article was written by a
critic of scientology the next conclusion will be this: "The critics
of scientology are just a bunch of liars". If course, this is just
what the scientologist who wrote article wants you to conclude. If you
come to this conclusion, the undercover scientologist has achieved his
"desired end result" or "desired end effect".




Truth Seeker
++++++++++

"The first battle a warrior must win is the battle for his own mind"


Here is a list of the titles of all the articles posted earlier
to this newsgroup that the Church of Scientology does not want you to
read. If you're having a hard time finding them, just do a search on
the title of the article within this newsgroup with your newsreader or
go to google.com, select "groups" and enter the title of the article.


*- "The Church of Scientology's recruiting and control operation"

*- "7 good reasons why you should stay away from Scientology"

*- "The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"

*- "When does a Scientologist cease to be a Scientologist?"

*- "Could Scientology be Hubbard's greatest Sci-Fi novel come to life
for some people?"

*- "Could using a "tone scale" be a good way to make people wrong?"

*- "Never reveal your true identity on this newsgroup!"

*- "The injustice that was leveled against me by the Church of
Scientology"

*- "Names the Church of Scientology is posting under on this
newsgroup"

*- "Was the book: "Dianetics" an attempt you make you wrong?"

*- "The Real Source of Happiness"

*- "Understanding how Scientology is going about discrediting their
enemies"

*- "Want to know a good way to spot the undercover scientologists on
this newsgroup?"

*- "The Church of Scientology creates their own enemies"

*- "The Church of Scientology is a mind control organization"

*- "The Church of Scientology is like a shadow"

*- "The Church of Scientology's Decoy System"

*- "Be careful of somebody trying to get you to put your name on a
petition!"

*- "Arnie Lerma answers this important question"

*- "How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"

*- "How Scientology wants the reader to Misidentify things on this
newsgroup"

*- "How the Church of Scientology tries to discredit it's critics"

*- "How to know if you have been manipulated by OSA on this newsgroup"

*- "How to spot the OSA members on this newsgroup"

*- "This is how to destroy the Church of Scientology"

*- "Another trick Scientologists who are pretending to be critics use
on this newsgroup"

*- "A red flag that something isn't right with the Church of
Scientology"

*- "How Scientology Creates Identity Confusion"

*- "Don't ever send your mail to other people on this newsgroup!"

*- "Giving Scientology a taste of its own medicine"

*- "OSA's tactics in a nutshell"

*- "The effect The Church of Scientology is aiming for with those
"Xenu" web sites"

*- "The key to how The Church of Scientology is trying to handle this
newsgroup"

*- "The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"

*- "The one thing the Church of Scientology won't help you go "free"
from"

*- "The subject of CONTROL and the Church of Scientology"

*- "The truth about the book "Introduction to Scientology Ethics""

*- "There are two justice systems in Scientology"

*- "Be careful logging on to Scientology related web sites!"

*- "Church of Scientology's Solution to Stopping Real Critics &
Criticism of their church"

*- "Conclusions the Church of Scientology want you to come to"

*- "Here's the real reason the OSA trolls want you to go on those
"xenu" web sites"

*- "Is the Church of Scientology really helping you get somewhere?"

*- "Some ways to "handle" the Church of Scientology"

*- "Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"

*- "The discrepancies between what's in Scientology's books and how
things are in reality"

*- "What a undercover OSA agent Will & Will Not do"

*- "Want to know if you have been manipulated by Scientology?"

*- "What a Scientology Staff member sees when they look at you"

*- "What does the Church of Scientology have against free speech?"

*- "What to do so OSA can't hurt you on this newsgroup"

*- "Another Inconsistency in Tory's story"

*- "Tory's real mission on this newsgroup"


If any of the articles listed in this index cannot be found, it
is probably because the Church of Scientology has illegally canceled
it in order to keep anybody from reading it. Please wait for me to
re-post it in the future.



Thank You.
M. Krotz
2004-05-01 04:06:04 UTC
Permalink
Whatever you do, listen to what "seeker" says and do not look at this site:

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sp/FLA.html

MK
Truth Seeker
2004-05-01 04:10:24 UTC
Permalink
Only an OSA agent wants you to leave this newsgroup and go elsewhere:


Why? Two reasons:

1. Because Scientology can not control what happens on this newsgroup,
therefore it constitutes a threat to them. This newsgroup is located
on hundreds of news servers all over the world and cannot be shut down
by them.

2. There is real criticism of Scientology on this newsgroup that they
are afraid you will read it.

If you see anybody on this newsgroup trying hard to get you to go
to a web site, it is more than likely an undercover scientologist. The
web sites names and the web address link titles are written to make it
appear on the surface to be critical of Scientology, this in order to
bait you into logging on. Anybody has the right put web links in their
posts but they will go overboard with it, that's one of the giveaways
that its an undercover agent for scientology. They want you onto a web
site so they can track your location and so they can read the
"cookies" which holds information about you in your web browser. Ask
yourself this question: "If they have something to say, why can't they
just say it here?, Why do they insist you read it elsewhere?"
Scientology's ability to track you and get into your browser and into
your computer is near zero on this newsgroup but it goes up fast once
you log onto a web site and that's one of the main reasons they want
you to leave this newsgroup.

There is one more thing they will try to do once you log onto a
web site that appears on the surface to be critical of scientology.
After reading 2 or 3 articles on that supposedly "critical of
Scientology web site" you will start to feel sick of criticism in
general and start to feel that the critics & enemies of scientology
are one or more of the following:

1. Liars

2. Mentally ill

3. Religious bigots

4. Don't know what they are talking about when it comes to Scientology

5. Perverts

6. Name callers or what's called in Scientology, "1.1's".

Or

7. Hate mongers

Why? Because that is the desired end effect the authors of those web
sites were aiming for. They deliberately manipulate the articles and
plant lies in them so you will start feeling that way. That is the
reason they tried to get you to go to that web site in the first
place. If you start to conclude that one or more the above 7 is true
regarding the critics & enemies of scientology, it was no accident,
you were manipulated into it.

For example, let say scientology wanted you to conclude that the
critics & enemies of scientology are liars, this is how they would
write an article on one of those web sites to get that effect:

First there would be 4 things the undercover scientologist who
wrote the article would want you to do:

1. Think, at first, that it was written by a critic or enemy
scientology.

2. Discover the lies that he deliberately inserted into the article.

3. Conclude after reading the article that the person who wrote it is
a liar.

4. Conclude after reading the article that the critics of scientology
are liars.

Step #1: "Identity Confusion"

The undercover scientologist wants you to think the article was
written by a critic of scientology. When you first look at an article
the first thing you try and figure out is the identity of who wrote
it. Now, in order to fool you on this they will put something like
this in the header:

"Hubbard's drug taking and arrests"

Now when you see something like that the first you are going to think
is that it was written by a critic of Scientology. The reason they
write the header like that is to get you to assign the wrong identity
to the person who wrote it. Now, at this point you THINK it was
written by a critic but that just what that scientologist wants you to
think.

Step #2: "Discovery of the lies"

The undercover scientologist inserts lies into the article with
the hope that you would discover them. The rest of the article will go
sort of like this:

"L. Ron Hubbard was a drug addict for 30 years and was arrested 20
times for drug selling and beating his wife with a coat hanger. After
he left the church in 1968 he would use the money from the church to
buy and sell drugs to Miami using his ship "The Apollo". On this ship
he use to ritually drink blood and sacrifice babies and goats. L. Ron
Hubbard was also into Satan worship and use to wave a magic wand
around."

Now, after you get done reading something like this you start
thinking: "This person is lying, that never happened, this guy is
making this stuff up." or "This person is exaggerating, things
couldn't have been that bad!".

Step #3: "Concluding that the person who wrote the article is a liar"

The undercover scientologist wants you to conclude, seemingly on
your own, that person who wrote the article is a liar. Which will
always lead to the next conclusion and step:

Step #4: "Concluding that the critics of scientology are liars "

At this point, since you think the article was written by a
critic of scientology the next conclusion will be this: "The critics
of scientology are just a bunch of liars". If course, this is just
what the scientologist who wrote article wants you to conclude. If you
come to this conclusion, the undercover scientologist has achieved his
"desired end result" or "desired end effect".




Truth Seeker
++++++++++

"The first battle a warrior must win is the battle for his own mind"


Here is a list of the titles of all the articles posted earlier
to this newsgroup that the Church of Scientology does not want you to
read. If you're having a hard time finding them, just do a search on
the title of the article within this newsgroup with your newsreader or
go to google.com, select "groups" and enter the title of the article.


*- "The Church of Scientology's recruiting and control operation"

*- "7 good reasons why you should stay away from Scientology"

*- "The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"

*- "When does a Scientologist cease to be a Scientologist?"

*- "Could Scientology be Hubbard's greatest Sci-Fi novel come to life
for some people?"

*- "Could using a "tone scale" be a good way to make people wrong?"

*- "Never reveal your true identity on this newsgroup!"

*- "The injustice that was leveled against me by the Church of
Scientology"

*- "Names the Church of Scientology is posting under on this
newsgroup"

*- "Was the book: "Dianetics" an attempt you make you wrong?"

*- "The Real Source of Happiness"

*- "Understanding how Scientology is going about discrediting their
enemies"

*- "Want to know a good way to spot the undercover scientologists on
this newsgroup?"

*- "The Church of Scientology creates their own enemies"

*- "The Church of Scientology is a mind control organization"

*- "The Church of Scientology is like a shadow"

*- "The Church of Scientology's Decoy System"

*- "Be careful of somebody trying to get you to put your name on a
petition!"

*- "Arnie Lerma answers this important question"

*- "How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"

*- "How Scientology wants the reader to Misidentify things on this
newsgroup"

*- "How the Church of Scientology tries to discredit it's critics"

*- "How to know if you have been manipulated by OSA on this newsgroup"

*- "How to spot the OSA members on this newsgroup"

*- "This is how to destroy the Church of Scientology"

*- "Another trick Scientologists who are pretending to be critics use
on this newsgroup"

*- "A red flag that something isn't right with the Church of
Scientology"

*- "How Scientology Creates Identity Confusion"

*- "Don't ever send your mail to other people on this newsgroup!"

*- "Giving Scientology a taste of its own medicine"

*- "OSA's tactics in a nutshell"

*- "The effect The Church of Scientology is aiming for with those
"Xenu" web sites"

*- "The key to how The Church of Scientology is trying to handle this
newsgroup"

*- "The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"

*- "The one thing the Church of Scientology won't help you go "free"
from"

*- "The subject of CONTROL and the Church of Scientology"

*- "The truth about the book "Introduction to Scientology Ethics""

*- "There are two justice systems in Scientology"

*- "Be careful logging on to Scientology related web sites!"

*- "Church of Scientology's Solution to Stopping Real Critics &
Criticism of their church"

*- "Conclusions the Church of Scientology want you to come to"

*- "Here's the real reason the OSA trolls want you to go on those
"xenu" web sites"

*- "Is the Church of Scientology really helping you get somewhere?"

*- "Some ways to "handle" the Church of Scientology"

*- "Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"

*- "The discrepancies between what's in Scientology's books and how
things are in reality"

*- "What a undercover OSA agent Will & Will Not do"

*- "Want to know if you have been manipulated by Scientology?"

*- "What a Scientology Staff member sees when they look at you"

*- "What does the Church of Scientology have against free speech?"

*- "What to do so OSA can't hurt you on this newsgroup"

*- "Another Inconsistency in Tory's story"

*- "Tory's real mission on this newsgroup"


If any of the articles listed in this index cannot be found, it
is probably because the Church of Scientology has illegally canceled
it in order to keep anybody from reading it. Please wait for me to
re-post it in the future.



Thank You.
M. Krotz
2004-05-01 04:14:16 UTC
Permalink
Roboposting LIAR continues to smear a real person, and a real critic of
Scientology.

This website redirection crap is amusing, but fools nobody.

Same as this "blocking posts."

Keep up the good work "seeker."

MK
Truth Seeker
2004-05-01 04:24:38 UTC
Permalink
OSA will always pull this trick in order to discredit you:


They will accuse you of the condition they are in and accuse you of
doing what they in fact are doing. It's as if they sat down with a pen and
paper and asked themselves this question: "What is my current condition?"
and then they jot down the conditions they are in. Then they ask themselves
this question: "What am I currently doing or trying to do?" and then they
jot that down on a piece of paper. Then they will then accuse me being in
all the conditions they wrote down on paper under the "My conditions"
category and accuse me of doing everything they wrote down under the "What
am I doing" category. Now, I'm not the first person to say this, a true
critic who use to post under the name of "Ralph Dorian" noticed the very
same thing. If you read any of his posts, you will see that I'm not the
first person to notice this strange behavior in the church of scientology's
agents on this newsgroup.

If you EVER want to know the condition or conditions OSA is and what
OSA is currently engaged in doing in just listen to what condition or
conditions they accuse me of being in and what they accuse me of doing! The
take what's true and reverse it AND THEN THEY WILL TURN AROUND AND SAY THATS
WHAT I'M DOING! Watch and see, it's incredible! Never in my life have I seen
anything like it.


Truth Seeker
++++++++++

"The first battle a warrior must win is the battle for his own mind"


Here is a list of the titles of all the articles posted earlier
to this newsgroup that the Church of Scientology does not want you to
read. If you're having a hard time finding them, just do a search on
the title of the article within this newsgroup with your newsreader or
go to google.com, select "groups" and enter the title of the article.


*- "The Church of Scientology's recruiting and control operation"

*- "7 good reasons why you should stay away from Scientology"

*- "The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"

*- "When does a Scientologist cease to be a Scientologist?"

*- "Could Scientology be Hubbard's greatest Sci-Fi novel come to life
for some people?"

*- "Could using a "tone scale" be a good way to make people wrong?"

*- "Never reveal your true identity on this newsgroup!"

*- "The injustice that was leveled against me by the Church of Scientology"

*- "Names the Church of Scientology is posting under on this newsgroup"

*- "Was the book: "Dianetics" an attempt you make you wrong?"

*- "The Real Source of Happiness"

*- "Understanding how Scientology is going about discrediting their
enemies"

*- "Want to know a good way to spot the undercover scientologists on
this newsgroup?"

*- "The Church of Scientology creates their own enemies"

*- "The Church of Scientology is a mind control organization"

*- "The Church of Scientology is like a shadow"

*- "The Church of Scientology's Decoy System"

*- "Be careful of somebody trying to get you to put your name on a
petition!"

*- "Arnie Lerma answers this important question"

*- "How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"

*- "How Scientology wants the reader to Misidentify things on this
newsgroup"

*- "How the Church of Scientology tries to discredit it's critics"

*- "How to know if you have been manipulated by OSA on this newsgroup"

*- "How to spot the OSA members on this newsgroup"

*- "This is how to destroy the Church of Scientology"

*- "Another trick Scientologists who are pretending to be critics use
on this newsgroup"

*- "A red flag that something isn't right with the Church of
Scientology"

*- "How Scientology Creates Identity Confusion"

*- "Don't ever send your mail to other people on this newsgroup!"

*- "Giving Scientology a taste of its own medicine"

*- "OSA's tactics in a nutshell"

*- "The effect The Church of Scientology is aiming for with those
"Xenu" web sites"

*- "The key to how The Church of Scientology is trying to handle this
newsgroup"

*- "The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"

*- "The one thing the Church of Scientology won't help you go "free"
from"

*- "The subject of CONTROL and the Church of Scientology"

*- "The truth about the book "Introduction to Scientology Ethics""

*- "There are two justice systems in Scientology"

*- "Be careful logging on to Scientology related web sites!"

*- "Church of Scientology's Solution to Stopping Real Critics &
Criticism of their church"

*- "Conclusions the Church of Scientology want you to come to"

*- "Here's the real reason the OSA trolls want you to go on those
"xenu" web sites"

*- "Is the Church of Scientology really helping you get somewhere?"

*- "Some ways to "handle" the Church of Scientology"

*- "Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"

*- "The discrepancies between what's in Scientology's books and how
things are in reality"

*- "What a undercover OSA agent Will & Will Not do"

*- "Want to know if you have been manipulated by Scientology?"

*- "What a Scientology Staff member sees when they look at you"

*- "What does the Church of Scientology have against free speech?"

*- "What to do so OSA can't hurt you on this newsgroup"

*- "Another Inconsistency in Tory's story"

*- "Tory's real mission on this newsgroup"


If any of the articles listed in this index cannot be found, it
is probably because the Church of Scientology has illegally canceled
it in order to keep anybody from reading it. Please wait for me to
re-post it in the future.



Thank You.
M. Krotz
2004-05-01 04:28:44 UTC
Permalink
Misdirection!

You really hate not having the last word, eh?

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sp/FLA.html

MK
Truth Seeker
2004-05-01 04:39:03 UTC
Permalink
Want to know all the tricks the Church of Scientology uses to find out who
their critics are?:


The first thing you must understand about the Church of Scientology is
this: they don't like having critics & enemies and not
knowing who or where they are. The following are a list of different
techniques they employ in order to track down critics & enemies of the
Church of Scientology:

The "decoy duck" technique:
+++++++++++++++++++++

One of solutions they came up with is a decoy system. Just like a
hunter who's hunting for ducks will put down wooden decoys in order to
attract some real ducks down from the sky, the Church of Scientology
sends out phony "critics" in order to smoke out into the open some
real critics of scientology. They take members from their own church,
tell them to look and act like critics or enemies of Scientology in
order to fool the church's real critics in to coming out in the open.
Just how Scientology goes about convincing the world that it's members
are critics is outlined in a article titled: "The Magical
Transformation of Church Member into Critic". Once the phony critics
have the real critics convinced that they are real critics like them,
they will say: "Want to join us for a picket?" Then a REAL critic
joins the undercover church members, who are just acting like critics
for a picket. At this point while the REAL critic is walking up and
down the sidewalk in front of an org, the church members from the org
being picketed are taking pictures of him. They will then create a new
file on him at OSA headquarters. After they find out what he looks
like and who he is, they can then investigate more about him, like
maybe where he lives and where he works. I'm sure they will also try
to find any dirt on him that could be used to "handle" or stop his
criticism or attacks against scientology in the future.

This is their solution to smoking out REAL critics into revealing
themselves. The negative effects of the picket are cancelled out by
the beneficial effects of finding out who their enemies are. Once if
they find out who they are they can then investigate them. It's hard
to dig up dirt on somebody for the purpose of stopping their attacks
if you don't know who they are and/or what they look like.

Now you know why if you're a new critic to this newsgroup they
will say to you: "Hey, why don't you come on out and picket with us?".
They might as well be asking you this question: "Hey, why don't you
come on out and picket with us so we can find out what you look like,
who you are, where you live, where you work and make it possible for
us to discredit and stop you from criticizing us anymore in the
future?".

The "phony petition" technique:
++++++++++++++++++++++

This is another trick the church of scientology uses in order to
find out who their enemies are. They get somebody to come on this
newsgroup posing as a critic of scientology requesting that you
include your name on a petition against the church of scientology.
They will include the name of a web site for you to go to in order to
put your name on. The big joke is, you are actually giving your name
to the church of scientology! The church will then know your name and
that you dislike them and want to hurt them. If you fall for this
trick it's the same as if you gave the information the church was
looking for on a silver platter! This is an ingenious method they came
up with in order to get a list of all their critics, enemies and
antagonists. They succeed in accomplishing it because they fool the
reader into thinking the person requesting your name on a petition is
AGAINST the church of scientology when in fact the person is a
scientologist. It's yet another example of their use of "identity
confusion". Keep your eye on that term, because it's a common theme in
their "handle" of their critics.

The "send me your scientology mail" technique:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The church of scientology likes to put out this bait under the
posting name of "Kristi Wachter". Remember, your name and address are
on any mail you ever received from the church of scientology and if
the person you send it to is an undercover agent for the church they
will know who it is on their mailing list that is now taking a
critical view of them. Even if you were to cut out your name and
address off the mail, your name and address could still be on that
piece of mail in some other form, like a bar code.

The Church of Scientology employs this technique as a way of
finding out the names of their members that are reading and posting to
this newsgroup. Don't take the risk, it's not worth it. Any
Scientology promotional mail you don't want, just tear it up and throw
it away. You can't be too careful when it comes to the Church of
Scientology unless it's your goal for them to find out who you are.

The OSA web site that appears to be a critical web site technique:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Unlike reading and posting on a newsgroup, when you log onto a
Scientology related web site, your location can be tracked and
information out of you computer read! Did you know that there is
information about you stored in your computer that can be accessed by
a web master once you log onto his web site? Did you also know that
your location can be traced by that same web master just like a phone
call can be traced? It's a well known tactic employed by Scientology
to try and trick readers on this newsgroup away from here and onto a
Scientology or OSA controlled web site. Scientology has created web
sites that appear on the surface to be critical of Scientology in
order to fool the readers into logging on. Another reason they want
you on their web site is to give you fake criticism of the church
which is laced with lies in an attempt to discredit the critics of
Scientology. They way it discredits the real critics of scientology is
because you THINK it was put up by the real critics of Scientology,
but it was not! Again, they employ "identity confusion"

If you read something on a Scientology related web site and came
away feeling that the critics of Scientology:

1. Don't know what there are talking about.

2. Are liars.

3. Are SP's just like L. Ron Hubbard said in his lectures from
the PTS/SP course.

4. Are mentally ill just like L. Ron Hubbard said in his books
and lectures.

5. Are lowlifes or perverts like L. Ron Hubbard said in his books
and lectures.

6. Are at 1.1 on the tone scale like L. Ron Hubbard said in
"Science of Survival".

7. Are religious bigots like L. Ron Hubbard said in his books and
lectures.

Congratulations!, you just read phony criticism created by the
Church of Scientology on a web site created or controlled by
Scientology! How do you know? Because these are the effects they were
aiming for. You "think" that when you log onto one of those web sites
you are OUTSIDE of the Church of Scientology, but you are not! Once
you log onto one of those web sites you are in another division of
Scientology, the OSA division! Those web sites were designed to
discredit the CRITICS of Scientology NOT Scientology! They were
designed to look like a true and real critical web site in order to
bait you in to logging on. Any time you see someone pushing web
address real hard, it's a dead giveaway that it's a undercover
scientologist.



Truth Seeker
++++++++++

"The first battle a warrior must win is the battle for his own mind"


Here is a list of the titles of all the articles posted earlier
to this newsgroup that the Church of Scientology does not want you to
read. If you're having a hard time finding them, just do a search on
the title of the article within this newsgroup with your newsreader or
go to google.com, select "groups" and enter the title of the article.


*- "The Church of Scientology's recruiting and control operation"

*- "7 good reasons why you should stay away from Scientology"

*- "The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"

*- "When does a Scientologist cease to be a Scientologist?"

*- "Could Scientology be Hubbard's greatest Sci-Fi novel come to life
for some people?"

*- "Could using a "tone scale" be a good way to make people wrong?"

*- "Never reveal your true identity on this newsgroup!"

*- "The injustice that was leveled against me by the Church of
Scientology"

*- "Names the Church of Scientology is posting under on this
newsgroup"

*- "Was the book: "Dianetics" an attempt you make you wrong?"

*- "The Real Source of Happiness"

*- "Understanding how Scientology is going about discrediting their
enemies"

*- "Want to know a good way to spot the undercover scientologists on
this newsgroup?"

*- "The Church of Scientology creates their own enemies"

*- "The Church of Scientology is a mind control organization"

*- "The Church of Scientology is like a shadow"

*- "The Church of Scientology's Decoy System"

*- "Be careful of somebody trying to get you to put your name on a
petition!"

*- "Arnie Lerma answers this important question"

*- "How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"

*- "How Scientology wants the reader to Misidentify things on this
newsgroup"

*- "How the Church of Scientology tries to discredit it's critics"

*- "How to know if you have been manipulated by OSA on this newsgroup"

*- "How to spot the OSA members on this newsgroup"

*- "This is how to destroy the Church of Scientology"

*- "Another trick Scientologists who are pretending to be critics use
on this newsgroup"

*- "A red flag that something isn't right with the Church of
Scientology"

*- "How Scientology Creates Identity Confusion"

*- "Don't ever send your mail to other people on this newsgroup!"

*- "Giving Scientology a taste of its own medicine"

*- "OSA's tactics in a nutshell"

*- "The effect The Church of Scientology is aiming for with those
"Xenu" web sites"

*- "The key to how The Church of Scientology is trying to handle this
newsgroup"

*- "The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"

*- "The one thing the Church of Scientology won't help you go "free"
from"

*- "The subject of CONTROL and the Church of Scientology"

*- "The truth about the book "Introduction to Scientology Ethics""

*- "There are two justice systems in Scientology"

*- "Be careful logging on to Scientology related web sites!"

*- "Church of Scientology's Solution to Stopping Real Critics &
Criticism of their church"

*- "Conclusions the Church of Scientology want you to come to"

*- "Here's the real reason the OSA trolls want you to go on those
"xenu" web sites"

*- "Is the Church of Scientology really helping you get somewhere?"

*- "Some ways to "handle" the Church of Scientology"

*- "Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"

*- "The discrepancies between what's in Scientology's books and how
things are in reality"

*- "What a undercover OSA agent Will & Will Not do"

*- "Want to know if you have been manipulated by Scientology?"

*- "What a Scientology Staff member sees when they look at you"

*- "What does the Church of Scientology have against free speech?"

*- "What to do so OSA can't hurt you on this newsgroup"

*- "Another Inconsistency in Tory's story"

*- "Tory's real mission on this newsgroup"


If any of the articles listed in this index cannot be found, it
is probably because the Church of Scientology has illegally canceled
it in order to keep anybody from reading it. Please wait for me to
re-post it in the future.



Thank You.
Curt West
2004-05-01 07:33:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Truth Seeker
Want to know all the tricks the Church of Scientology uses to find out who
++++++++++++++++++++++
This is another trick the church of scientology uses in order to
find out who their enemies are. They get somebody to come on this
newsgroup posing as a critic of scientology requesting that you
include your name on a petition against the church of scientology.
They will include the name of a web site for you to go to in order to
put your name on. The big joke is, you are actually giving your name
to the church of scientology! The church will then know your name and
that you dislike them and want to hurt them. If you fall for this
trick it's the same as if you gave the information the church was
looking for on a silver platter! This is an ingenious method they came
up with in order to get a list of all their critics, enemies and
antagonists. They succeed in accomplishing it because they fool the
reader into thinking the person requesting your name on a petition is
AGAINST the church of scientology when in fact the person is a
scientologist. It's yet another example of their use of "identity
confusion". Keep your eye on that term, because it's a common theme in
their "handle" of their critics.
They really hate this one. So badly, they've pretty much spammed it to
death.

http://www.petitiononline.com/cofs1/petition.html
Truth Seeker
2004-05-01 09:46:54 UTC
Permalink
Please remember, Only an OSA agent wants you to leave this newsgroup:

If you ever see somebody on this newsgroup constantly pushing this web
site or that web site it's a dead giveaway that is an undercover
scientologist. Anybody has the right to put a web link in their articles
from time to time but they will take it too far. If they have something to
say, why can't they just say it here on the newsgroup? Why do they insist
you read it elsewhere? If you ever see anybody pushing web sites over and
over and especially if they have those web sites listed in their signature,
you are looking at an undercover scientologist, I'm 100% positive about
this! Remember, if they are pushing web sites real hard that = OSA! I would
put my life and everything I own on it, I'm that certain.

The following are the real reasons they want you to leave this newsgroup:


[Reason #1]: If you log onto a web site your location can be traced back to
you.

Just like a telephone call can be traced, the webmaster can trace back
to you your location on the internet based on the hops it took from server
to server over the internet.

[Reason #2]: When you log onto a web site, your web browser comes into play
which is much less secure than a newsreader.

When you log onto a web site, that web site can read information stored
in your web browser's directory on your computer. To your web browser this
information is called "cookies". As soon as you log onto a web site, that
web site can try and get access to this stored information on your computer
and from it find out information about you. This is something that is
impossible to do if you are reading this newsgroup with a newsreader. OSA
will always call the name of the web site something like "Scientology-kills"
or "Scientology-lies" or "IhateScientology.com" in order to make you think
it is a critical web site and on the surface it appears to be. They know
that you might be hungry for criticism of scientology just like a mouse is
hungry for cheese. So in order to get you to log on they put a piece of
cheese in the trap by using a name similar to one of the above. Or they will
put some criticism in the article that contains the web address. It might go
as follows: "Scientology is a rotten stinking scam!, Here, go to this web
site to find out more". The words "Scientology is a rotten stinking scam" is
the cheese in the trap that make you think the article was written by a
critic and to get you to log on to the web address he inserted in the
article. The undercover scientologist who posts under the name of "roger
gonnet" pulls this one a lot.

[Reason #3]: The Church of Scientology can't control this newsgroup.

The newsgroup "Alt.Religion.Scientology" presented a problem the likes
of which Scientology had never faced before. In the past all criticism of
the church usually emanated from one locatable source, like a newspaper,
magazine, or TV show. The reason Scientology couldn't handle this newsgroup
the same way it did other sources of criticism in the past is because it is
not located in any one place. The different articles that comprise this
newsgroup are stored on hundreds of servers all over the planet. There isn't
any one location they can go to in order to shut it down. As a result of
this, Scientology had to come up with a different solution to this problem.
One solution they came up with was to try to route your attention off this
newsgroup and on to some web site. The church of scientology doesn't like
anything it can't control which is why they hate this newsgroup and try very
hard to get readers out of here.

[Reason #4]: If you attention is somewhere else, like on a web site, what
are the chances you may read some real criticism of Scientology on this
newsgroup?

This newsgroup contains some real criticism of scientology and if the
undercover scientologist can get you out of here on and to some web site,
any web site, they don't have to worry about you reading it. You see, if
Scientology can't get rid of the criticism on this newsgroup they will try
to get rid of the potential readers of that criticism. It's sort of like it
was in the movie "The Wizard of Oz", Scientology is trying to distract you
from this newsgroup just like the "all powerful Oz" was trying to do in the
move. They are trying to deflect & distract your attention off this
newsgroup to somewhere else where they have more control.

[Reason #5]: If you do log onto one of those web sites you will begin to
start thinking less and less of the critics & enemies of scientology and you
won't even know how it happened.

After reading 2 or 3 articles on that supposedly "critical of
Scientology web site" you will start to feel sick of criticism in general
and start to feel that the critics & enemies of scientology are one or more
of the following:

1. Liars

2. Mentally ill

3. Religious bigots

4. Don't know what they are talking about when it comes to Scientology

5. Perverts

6. Name callers or what's called in Scientology, "1.1's".

Or

7. Hate mongers

Why? Because that is the desired end effect the authors of those web sites
were aiming for. They deliberately manipulate the articles and plant lies in
them so you will start feeling that way. That is the reason they tried to
get you to go to that web site in the first place. If you start to conclude
that one or more the above 7 is true regarding the critics & enemies of
scientology, it was no accident, you were manipulated into it.

For example, lets say scientology wanted you to conclude that the
critics & enemies of scientology are liars, this is how they would write an
article on one of those web sites to get that effect:

First there would be 4 things the undercover scientologist who wrote
the article would want you to do:

1. Think, at first, that it was written by a critic or enemy scientology.

2. Discover the lies that he deliberately inserted into the article.

3. Conclude after reading the article that the person who wrote it is a
liar.

4. Conclude after reading the article that the critics of scientology are
liars.

Step #1: "Identity Confusion"

The undercover scientologist wants you to think the article was written
by a critic of scientology. When you first look at an article the first
thing you try and figure out is the identity of who wrote it. Now, in order
to fool you on this they will put something like this in the header:

"Hubbard's drug taking and arrests"

Now when you see something like that the first you are going to think is
that it was written by a critic of Scientology. The reason they write the
header like that is to get you to assign the wrong identity to the person
who wrote it. Now, at this point you THINK it was written by a critic but
that just what that scientologist wants you to think.

Step #2: "Discovery of the lies"

The undercover scientologist inserts lies into the article with the
hope that you would discover them. The rest of the article will go sort of
like this:

"L. Ron Hubbard was a drug addict for 30 years and was arrested 20 times for
drug selling and beating his wife with a coat hanger. After he left the
church in 1968 he would use the money from the church to buy and sell drugs
to Miami using his ship "The Apollo". On this ship he use to ritually drink
blood and sacrifice babies and goats. L. Ron Hubbard was also into Satan
worship and use to wave a magic wand around."

Now, after you get done reading something like this you start thinking:
"This person is lying, that never happened, this guy is making this stuff
up." or "This person is exaggerating, things couldn't have been that bad!".

Step #3: "Concluding that the person who wrote the article is a liar"

The undercover scientologist wants you to conclude, seemingly on your
own, that person who wrote the article is a liar. Which will always lead to
the next conclusion and step:

Step #4: "Concluding that the critics of scientology are liars "

At this point, since you think the article was written by a critic of
scientology the next conclusion will be this: "The critics of scientology
are just a bunch of liars". If course, this is just what the scientologist
who wrote article wants you to conclude. If you come to this conclusion, the
undercover scientologist has achieved his "desired end result" or "desired
end effect".




Truth Seeker
++++++++++

"The first battle a warrior must win is the battle for his own mind"


Here is a list of the titles of all the articles posted earlier
to this newsgroup that the Church of Scientology does not want you to
read. If you're having a hard time finding them, just do a search on
the title of the article within this newsgroup with your newsreader or
go to google.com, select "groups" and enter the title of the article.


*- "The Church of Scientology's recruiting and control operation"

*- "7 good reasons why you should stay away from Scientology"

*- "The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"

*- "When does a Scientologist cease to be a Scientologist?"

*- "Could Scientology be Hubbard's greatest Sci-Fi novel come to life
for some people?"

*- "Could using a "tone scale" be a good way to make people wrong?"

*- "Never reveal your true identity on this newsgroup!"

*- "The injustice that was leveled against me by the Church of Scientology"

*- "Names the Church of Scientology is posting under on this newsgroup"

*- "Was the book: "Dianetics" an attempt you make you wrong?"

*- "The Real Source of Happiness"

*- "Understanding how Scientology is going about discrediting their
enemies"

*- "Want to know a good way to spot the undercover scientologists on
this newsgroup?"

*- "The Church of Scientology creates their own enemies"

*- "The Church of Scientology is a mind control organization"

*- "The Church of Scientology is like a shadow"

*- "The Church of Scientology's Decoy System"

*- "Be careful of somebody trying to get you to put your name on a
petition!"

*- "Arnie Lerma answers this important question"

*- "How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"

*- "How Scientology wants the reader to Misidentify things on this
newsgroup"

*- "How the Church of Scientology tries to discredit it's critics"

*- "How to know if you have been manipulated by OSA on this newsgroup"

*- "How to spot the OSA members on this newsgroup"

*- "This is how to destroy the Church of Scientology"

*- "Another trick Scientologists who are pretending to be critics use
on this newsgroup"

*- "A red flag that something isn't right with the Church of
Scientology"

*- "How Scientology Creates Identity Confusion"

*- "Don't ever send your mail to other people on this newsgroup!"

*- "Giving Scientology a taste of its own medicine"

*- "OSA's tactics in a nutshell"

*- "The effect The Church of Scientology is aiming for with those
"Xenu" web sites"

*- "The key to how The Church of Scientology is trying to handle this
newsgroup"

*- "The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"

*- "The one thing the Church of Scientology won't help you go "free"
from"

*- "The subject of CONTROL and the Church of Scientology"

*- "The truth about the book "Introduction to Scientology Ethics""

*- "There are two justice systems in Scientology"

*- "Be careful logging on to Scientology related web sites!"

*- "Church of Scientology's Solution to Stopping Real Critics &
Criticism of their church"

*- "Conclusions the Church of Scientology want you to come to"

*- "Here's the real reason the OSA trolls want you to go on those
"xenu" web sites"

*- "Is the Church of Scientology really helping you get somewhere?"

*- "Some ways to "handle" the Church of Scientology"

*- "Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"

*- "The discrepancies between what's in Scientology's books and how
things are in reality"

*- "What a undercover OSA agent Will & Will Not do"

*- "Want to know if you have been manipulated by Scientology?"

*- "What a Scientology Staff member sees when they look at you"

*- "What does the Church of Scientology have against free speech?"

*- "What to do so OSA can't hurt you on this newsgroup"

*- "Another Inconsistency in Tory's story"

*- "Tory's real mission on this newsgroup"


If any of the articles listed in this index cannot be found, it
is probably because the Church of Scientology has illegally canceled
it in order to keep anybody from reading it. Please wait for me to
re-post it in the future.



Thank You.

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