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Only an OSA agent wants you to leave this newsgroup and go elsewhere:
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Truth Seeker
2004-04-30 06:36:56 UTC
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Only an OSA agent wants you to leave this newsgroup and go elsewhere:


Why? Two reasons:

1. Because Scientology can not control what happens on this newsgroup,
therefore it constitutes a threat to them. This newsgroup is located
on hundreds of news servers all over the world and cannot be shut down
by them.

2. There is real criticism of Scientology on this newsgroup that they
are afraid you will read it.

If you see anybody on this newsgroup trying hard to get you to go
to a web site, it is more than likely an undercover scientologist. The
web sites names and the web address link titles are written to make it
appear on the surface to be critical of Scientology, this in order to
bait you into logging on. Anybody has the right put web links in their
posts but they will go overboard with it, that's one of the giveaways
that its an undercover agent for scientology. They want you onto a web
site so they can track your location and so they can read the
"cookies" which holds information about you in your web browser. Ask
yourself this question: "If they have something to say, why can't they
just say it here?, Why do they insist you read it elsewhere?"
Scientology's ability to track you and get into your browser and into
your computer is near zero on this newsgroup but it goes up fast once
you log onto a web site and that's one of the main reasons they want
you to leave this newsgroup.

There is one more thing they will try to do once you log onto a
web site that appears on the surface to be critical of scientology.
After reading 2 or 3 articles on that supposedly "critical of
Scientology web site" you will start to feel sick of criticism in
general and start to feel that the critics & enemies of scientology
are one or more of the following:

1. Liars

2. Mentally ill

3. Religious bigots

4. Don't know what they are talking about when it comes to Scientology

5. Perverts

6. Name callers or what's called in Scientology, "1.1's".

Or

7. Hate mongers

Why? Because that is the desired end effect the authors of those web
sites were aiming for. They deliberately manipulate the articles and
plant lies in them so you will start feeling that way. That is the
reason they tried to get you to go to that web site in the first
place. If you start to conclude that one or more the above 7 is true
regarding the critics & enemies of scientology, it was no accident,
you were manipulated into it.

For example, let say scientology wanted you to conclude that the
critics & enemies of scientology are liars, this is how they would
write an article on one of those web sites to get that effect:

First there would be 4 things the undercover scientologist who
wrote the article would want you to do:

1. Think, at first, that it was written by a critic or enemy
scientology.

2. Discover the lies that he deliberately inserted into the article.

3. Conclude after reading the article that the person who wrote it is
a liar.

4. Conclude after reading the article that the critics of scientology
are liars.

Step #1: "Identity Confusion"

The undercover scientologist wants you to think the article was
written by a critic of scientology. When you first look at an article
the first thing you try and figure out is the identity of who wrote
it. Now, in order to fool you on this they will put something like
this in the header:

"Hubbard's drug taking and arrests"

Now when you see something like that the first you are going to think
is that it was written by a critic of Scientology. The reason they
write the header like that is to get you to assign the wrong identity
to the person who wrote it. Now, at this point you THINK it was
written by a critic but that just what that scientologist wants you to
think.

Step #2: "Discovery of the lies"

The undercover scientologist inserts lies into the article with
the hope that you would discover them. The rest of the article will go
sort of like this:

"L. Ron Hubbard was a drug addict for 30 years and was arrested 20
times for drug selling and beating his wife with a coat hanger. After
he left the church in 1968 he would use the money from the church to
buy and sell drugs to Miami using his ship "The Apollo". On this ship
he use to ritually drink blood and sacrifice babies and goats. L. Ron
Hubbard was also into Satan worship and use to wave a magic wand
around."

Now, after you get done reading something like this you start
thinking: "This person is lying, that never happened, this guy is
making this stuff up." or "This person is exaggerating, things
couldn't have been that bad!".

Step #3: "Concluding that the person who wrote the article is a liar"

The undercover scientologist wants you to conclude, seemingly on
your own, that person who wrote the article is a liar. Which will
always lead to the next conclusion and step:

Step #4: "Concluding that the critics of scientology are liars "

At this point, since you think the article was written by a
critic of scientology the next conclusion will be this: "The critics
of scientology are just a bunch of liars". If course, this is just
what the scientologist who wrote article wants you to conclude. If you
come to this conclusion, the undercover scientologist has achieved his
"desired end result" or "desired end effect".




Truth Seeker
++++++++++

"The first battle a warrior must win is the battle for his own mind"


Here is a list of the titles of all the articles posted earlier
to this newsgroup that the Church of Scientology does not want you to
read. If you're having a hard time finding them, just do a search on
the title of the article within this newsgroup with your newsreader or
go to google.com, select "groups" and enter the title of the article.


*- "The Church of Scientology's recruiting and control operation"

*- "7 good reasons why you should stay away from Scientology"

*- "The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"

*- "When does a Scientologist cease to be a Scientologist?"

*- "Could Scientology be Hubbard's greatest Sci-Fi novel come to life
for some people?"

*- "Could using a "tone scale" be a good way to make people wrong?"

*- "Never reveal your true identity on this newsgroup!"

*- "The injustice that was leveled against me by the Church of
Scientology"

*- "Names the Church of Scientology is posting under on this
newsgroup"

*- "Was the book: "Dianetics" an attempt you make you wrong?"

*- "The Real Source of Happiness"

*- "Understanding how Scientology is going about discrediting their
enemies"

*- "Want to know a good way to spot the undercover scientologists on
this newsgroup?"

*- "The Church of Scientology creates their own enemies"

*- "The Church of Scientology is a mind control organization"

*- "The Church of Scientology is like a shadow"

*- "The Church of Scientology's Decoy System"

*- "Be careful of somebody trying to get you to put your name on a
petition!"

*- "Arnie Lerma answers this important question"

*- "How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"

*- "How Scientology wants the reader to Misidentify things on this
newsgroup"

*- "How the Church of Scientology tries to discredit it's critics"

*- "How to know if you have been manipulated by OSA on this newsgroup"

*- "How to spot the OSA members on this newsgroup"

*- "This is how to destroy the Church of Scientology"

*- "Another trick Scientologists who are pretending to be critics use
on this newsgroup"

*- "A red flag that something isn't right with the Church of
Scientology"

*- "How Scientology Creates Identity Confusion"

*- "Don't ever send your mail to other people on this newsgroup!"

*- "Giving Scientology a taste of its own medicine"

*- "OSA's tactics in a nutshell"

*- "The effect The Church of Scientology is aiming for with those
"Xenu" web sites"

*- "The key to how The Church of Scientology is trying to handle this
newsgroup"

*- "The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"

*- "The one thing the Church of Scientology won't help you go "free"
from"

*- "The subject of CONTROL and the Church of Scientology"

*- "The truth about the book "Introduction to Scientology Ethics""

*- "There are two justice systems in Scientology"

*- "Be careful logging on to Scientology related web sites!"

*- "Church of Scientology's Solution to Stopping Real Critics &
Criticism of their church"

*- "Conclusions the Church of Scientology want you to come to"

*- "Here's the real reason the OSA trolls want you to go on those
"xenu" web sites"

*- "Is the Church of Scientology really helping you get somewhere?"

*- "Some ways to "handle" the Church of Scientology"

*- "Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"

*- "The discrepancies between what's in Scientology's books and how
things are in reality"

*- "What a undercover OSA agent Will & Will Not do"

*- "Want to know if you have been manipulated by Scientology?"

*- "What a Scientology Staff member sees when they look at you"

*- "What does the Church of Scientology have against free speech?"

*- "What to do so OSA can't hurt you on this newsgroup"

*- "Another Inconsistency in Tory's story"

*- "Tory's real mission on this newsgroup"


If any of the articles listed in this index cannot be found, it
is probably because the Church of Scientology has illegally canceled
it in order to keep anybody from reading it. Please wait for me to
re-post it in the future.



Thank You.
roger gonnet
2004-04-30 06:39:53 UTC
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see www.entheta.net
Truth Seeker
2004-04-30 06:52:26 UTC
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Look! "roger gonnet" is back on his post for the church responding to all my
posts!:


Well, its his shift now for the church of scientology and it's his job
to give a distracting response to my posts. Why? With the hopes that you
will read his post and not mine. With the hopes you will log onto an OSA
controlled or created web site he plants in his posts so the church can
track your location and find out information about you which is contained in
your computer. But that's not possible unless you log on to the web
addresses he puts in his posts. He will say things in the headers of his
posts and sometimes in the body of his post in order convince you he's a
critic. It's a trap! Don't fall for it. If he has something to say, why
doesn't he just say it here?



Truth Seeker
=========
roger gonnet
2004-04-30 08:32:48 UTC
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www.xenufrance.net

with a doctor in law speaking of the scam called scientology.

r
Truth Seeker
2004-04-30 09:03:11 UTC
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Roger Gonnet is a scientologist trying to trap you, here's how:


HE WANTS YOU TO LOG ONTO SOME WEB SITE SO THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY AND
GET INTO YOUR COMPUTER! DON'T FALL FOR IT. THEY WILL READ SHIT THAT IS
STORED IN YOUR COMPUTER VIA YOUR WEB BROWSER AND TRACK YOUR LOCATION! IT IS
NOT NEARLY AS SECURE AS A NEWSREADER. He wants you out of this newsgroup
because it contains some real criticism and it's also his job to route you
out of here so you won't read any of it.

Don't fall for this French OSA agent's tricks. IF HE HAS SOMETHING TO
SAY WHY DOESN'T HE JUST SAY IT HEAR? WHY DOES HE ~INSIST~ THAT YOU LOG ONTO
SOME WEB SITE FOR WHICH YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO IT REALLY IS THAT CONTROLS IT?
Remember, only an OSA agent will try OVER AND OVER to get you out of here
and onto some web site, god knows where. Play it safe.



Truth Seeker
========
Curt West
2004-04-30 12:36:40 UTC
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Post by Truth Seeker
HE WANTS YOU TO LOG ONTO SOME WEB SITE SO THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY AND
GET INTO YOUR COMPUTER! DON'T FALL FOR IT. THEY WILL READ SHIT THAT IS
STORED IN YOUR COMPUTER VIA YOUR WEB BROWSER AND TRACK YOUR LOCATION! IT IS
NOT NEARLY AS SECURE AS A NEWSREADER. He wants you out of this newsgroup
because it contains some real criticism and it's also his job to route you
out of here so you won't read any of it.
Don't fall for this French OSA agent's tricks. IF HE HAS SOMETHING TO
SAY WHY DOESN'T HE JUST SAY IT HEAR? WHY DOES HE ~INSIST~ THAT YOU LOG ONTO
SOME WEB SITE FOR WHICH YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO IT REALLY IS THAT CONTROLS IT?
Remember, only an OSA agent will try OVER AND OVER to get you out of here
and onto some web site, god knows where. Play it safe.
Truth Seeker
========
Now, now Truthball. No need to shout.

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